Sauna stove KUTKIN. Reviews from real users

If you need a sauna stove that can operate in several modes, take a look at the units that are produced by M.M. Kutkin. It can be used in four modes:

• as an infrared sauna - with a low temperature and radiation in the infrared range (this is what its creator says, but there is no confirmation or refutation that such a regime is possible);
• create conditions like in a hamam (low temperature about 40 ° C and humidity 80-90%);
• Russian steam room with a temperature of 50-70 ° C and a humidity of 40-70% (whoever likes it);
• dry-air hot sauna with a temperature of 90 ° C and higher and low humidity - no more than 10-15%.

  
  This is how Kutkin furnaces look in a coil lining and in the Economy + version

To make it immediately clear, all these modes can be created using the oven without any finishing touches and alterations. It will be necessary to set the stove correctly for this mode (ash pan / blower / water / firewood / stove cover) and you can hold the mode for a long time.

Another feature of this oven: it can be operated with gas. Moreover, everyone admits that in the gas version the Kutkin furnace works better than all others on the market.

Design features

The dimensions of the Kutkin bath stoves are small. They are tall and narrow, so they can easily fit in a small room. There are options for installation in a steam room, there are options with a remote firebox - for a firebox from an adjacent room. The doors are either of the usual format, or the fireplace doors are wide. At the same time, the length of the furnace tunnel is commensurate with the dimensions of the brick (it will be easy to make a brick lining). The stove is lined with soapstone, coil or jadeite (maybe without lining).

How to install the stove - in the steam room or with the removal of the furnace tunnel to another room, read here.

Furnace structure (no cuts)

The chimney is moved forward relative to the center. Because of what it will be close to the wall (when burning from an adjacent room). So here you have to protect the wall (a sheet of basalt cardboard, on top - a sheet of shiny metal). Although, if you put, as the manufacturer recommends, a branded economizer immediately at the exit, and then a sandwich, the temperature cannot be too high. Kutkin's economizer is a grid with stones and a vaporization system, which is arranged around an inner stainless steel pipe.

Water can be heated in two ways: by a heat exchanger inside the oven and on a pipe. The one that heats the water on the pipe more efficiently. Therefore, if there is no other source of hot water in the bath, it is better to use this option. If you only need an auxiliary / backup method of heating water, you can put the heat exchanger in the oven.

Read more about how to organize water heating in a bath here.

This is a photo of the Kutkin oven "live"

Everything is with external design features. We will understand a little with the internal structure (as far as possible, since there are simply no cutaway images of the furnace).

There are three important features (at least those that are in sight):

1. closed heater with a lid;
2. double casing, outside faced with natural stone (can be supplied without facing);
3. IR economizer on the pipe (mesh filled with fine stones).

Welds

The Kutkin sauna stove is cooked in an argon atmosphere of stainless steel 3 mm thick. The quality of the welds is good. And this is celebrated by everyone who saw them. To give them additional strength during welding, chromium-nickel solder is used. As a result, the seam (due to the nickel content) becomes more elastic and does not burst under temperature loads and changes.

You can evaluate the quality of the seams (to enlarge the picture, right-click)

Firebox and closed heater

The firebox has a trapezoidal shape and is very decent in size. The stove is large (for some connoisseurs it seems too voluminous), lowered rather low into the firebox.

The stones are heated from five sides. The upper part of the stove has a movable cover. If necessary, add water, the lid is opened, poured and closed (for hammam and Russian steam room modes). In the models produced a few years ago, the lid was just a piece of iron with a handle that lay on top. This caused a lot of criticism: it is inconvenient to use. Changes have been made to the design and today the hatch has hinges, moves easily (again, according to the reviews of those who use or saw / felt).

This is in the process of heating

What is a closed stove in the oven for? To heat the stones to high temperatures. Only if they are heated to 500 ° C and above can light steam be produced.

Lung is called vapor, which consists of very small droplets of moisture. They are so small that the pair is almost invisible. And this happens if the stones are overheated, which is why the steam itself has a very high temperature. Paradoxical as it may sound, they say that it is "dry". After a steam room with such steam, the body feels light, and the head never hurts. Therefore, there are constant battles among the gourmets of the Russian bath on the topic: "which oven gives out the lightest steam."

One caveat: the heater is sealed, non-ventilated. This is done specifically so that the heat from the stones does not dissipate, but goes to the formation of light steam.

Double casing + cladding

Cladding is not only beautiful. It also shields hard radiation.
A double steel shell is made around the furnace body. A cladding is attached to the second outside. The thickness of the stone can be 9, 11, 13, 20 mm. All this is necessary in order to reduce the harsh heat radiation from the oven.

If you put just an iron stove in the bath, problems arise with thermal regimes: either the stones are subcooled and the steam turns out to be damp, or the temperature in the steam room is too high. All this is due to the fact that the steel from which the case is made transfers heat too well. And the presence of a convection casing only aggravates the situation: such a stove is ideal only for saunas. The Russian steam room mode can be created only if a brick screen is erected around the stove (preferably with doors to regulate convective flows). This is the only way to achieve a lower temperature and higher humidity, and then, provided that there is a closed heater in the stove.

It is not necessary to cover the Kutkin oven with a screen. Two casings and a stone cladding are quite successful in extinguishing hard radiation. Here is one of the reviews from those who tested this oven:

About halfway through the process, I touched the oven lining. It was warmed up in about a hundred square meters. You can't hold your hand, but you can touch it without getting burned. Moreover, the steam room is small, as they say, more than three do not gather. So small that the third one sits in the corner ... All the time spent in the steam room (three hours) I did not feel any discomfort even near the stove. From this I can conclude: it is well screened.

Pipe economizer

This is what an economizer looks like
In the classic version of installation, a single metal pipe goes directly from the furnace. It is the second source of hard radiation in the steam room: the flue gas temperature is 700 ° C and higher, so it often heats up to a red color (except for models with an afterburner, but there are other problems).

Kutkin recommends installing an economizer that solves this problem. At the same time, it serves as a source of heat for the upper shelf, warming the person lying there with the help of the heat emanating from the stones. What will not happen if you put a samovar-type tank on a pipe. Then the outer wall of the tank will not be higher than 60-70 ° C, and this is not at all the temperature at which heat is emitted.

Kutkin has an economizer in two versions - with and without an internal register for heating water.The manufacturer himself says that a device without a heat exchanger can be used to control the operating mode of the furnace: if the pipe heats up to a red glow, then the intensity of combustion must be reduced (push the ash pan). Such an indicator.

Above this device (up to the roof passage), it is recommended to install sandwich pipes with basalt wool filler. According to the recommendations of the manufacturer of the stove - the thickness of the insulation is desirable at least 50 mm, and preferably 100 mm.

Getting steam

The heater is located inside, in the upper part of the body. The top is covered with a movable cover. After the stones are warmed up, the lid is opened, water is poured, the lid is closed. Steam escapes through the slots between the body and the cover and between the two housings around the body.

Water supply valve connection diagram

There is a second way - automated. To do this, water is supplied to the furnace, an electromechanical valve is installed on the pipe (equipment option). The control button is installed in a convenient place. Most often - not far from the shelf: you need steam, pressed without getting up, received a portion of water into the heater. Moreover, the frequency of delivery is adjustable - from a few seconds to 24 hours.

When using the valve, the water is pumped to the bottom of the heater, which produces drier steam. Although when served manually, no one complains about its quality. In general, this is a convenient option for many.

Air flow adjustment

As the manufacturer repeatedly draws attention in his recommendations, you need to heat the stove without fanaticism. The unit is powerful, even raw firewood burns with ease (with dry firewood it goes into mode faster). During the firebox, the task is not to warm it up, but to avoid overheating the stove: convection is severely stifled, the walls of the firebox are cooled poorly, therefore excessive modes are very harmful.

The intensity of wood burning in the firebox can be easily adjusted

It is easier to regulate the intensity of combustion with an ash pan. They pushed it out, the air flows abundantly into the lower part of the grate, the combustion becomes more active. In this mode, it is necessary to heat when the steam room is warming up and until the firewood flares up. After that, the ash drawer either closes completely, or a small gap is left.

The knob of the main air supply regulator is located under the firebox door. It also increases or decreases the oxygen supply for combustion and regulates the modes. These two levers, and even the stove cover, maintain the required temperature in the steam room. Simply by adjusting the air supply, you change the intensity of combustion and the temperature in the stove, and with the stove cover you change the amount of heat that enters the steam room. And it is very effective. Here is a testimonial from one user:

“I was in the bathhouse with the Kutkin oven. There were a lot of us, which is why there was little time for each. But I found out that in this stove it is easy to regulate both the temperature and humidity in the steam room. First, I made a regime for myself, as I like: + 60 ° and humidity 40%. So I kept it for 15 minutes (I just didn't change anything). Then he opened the lid of the stove, in a matter of minutes the temperature rose to 70 °. I closed the lid and it did not change for 10 minutes. And then they kicked me out. They said that others also need to take a steam bath. But for myself I decided that, probably, I would prefer it. I just liked it "

Model range of Kutkin stoves

The use of a closed heater is one of the key advantages of this equipment. This design allows you to put stoves in Russian baths, quite capricious in relation to maintaining the temperature and humidity conditions. In addition, the stove is conceived as a multifunctional equipment that can recreate the microclimate of other types of baths with a thousand-year history.

The units are unique, as they are capable of operating on any type of fuel - gas, wood, diesel. The main management tools are implemented without binding strictly to the right or left side, which allows them to be mounted at your own discretion.When compared with other common models of sauna stoves, here the fuel consumption is almost three times lower.

The equipment can have a unique design, since at the customer's request such aesthetic materials as granite, ceramics, jadeite, talcochlorite are used in its facing. The steel contains up to 17% chromium, which provides an impressive service life and high quality models.

The reasons for choosing the Kutkin ovens:

• compactness,
• fire safety,
• the ability to implement without reworking the finished project,
• convenience of heating any area,
• affordable cost,
• operational reliability,
• production of light steam,
• the possibility of installing an additional tank for concomitant heating of water,
• high quality assembly and raw materials, use in the production of European control components.

It is important that the modifications are easy to install, they do not need laborious revision, all work can be done alone

The uniqueness of furnaces under the Kutkin brand lies in the ability to operate on traditional solid fuel and on natural or liquefied gas, and even on diesel fuel.

When choosing the right equipment, you can pay attention to the operational and production characteristics of the models. Namely:

• Sauna stove Kutkin 1.0 Standard - with a closed heater is designed for single steam rooms up to 10 m³. In production, heat-resistant steel with a thickness of 2 mm is used. Welded seams are made by argon-arc welding, which allows them to withstand heating up to 100 degrees without loss of strength.

  Door options in the Kutkin 1.0 Standard model are negotiated separately. Installed as a panoramic firebox with a free view of the burning flame, and a door with a small glass opening. The body can be faced with soapstone or other natural stone.

• Sauna stoves Kutkin 1.5 Standard - another basic model, recommended for use in steam rooms up to 18 m³. To increase productivity, changes were made to the design: the possibility of heating in the upper burning mode of firewood, the use of an economizer is provided.

  Full automation of heating the steam room and maintaining the set temperature is achieved thanks to the Kutkin 1.5 Standard model on gas.

  After lining the stove with natural stone, the heat transfer increases, in general, by 15%.

• Sauna stoves Kutkin 2.0 Standard - these models feel good in steam rooms up to 25 m³. The uniqueness of the design is the significantly increased volume of the combustion chamber in comparison with other modifications of this series. As a result, heating the stove has become much easier.

  Traditionally, the equipment set includes an economizer and a long fuel line. There is a possibility of lengthening the furnace tunnel due to its structure resembling a telescope.

  The Kutkin 2.0 Standard gas oven is equipped with an ONG-2 or NAVIEN burner. Depending on the installed equipment, the heated volume can vary from 18 to 25 m³.

• Sauna stove Kutkin 1.0 Economy is a small model, in which the main emphasis is placed on simplicity of design, which made it possible to obtain a stove capable of heating a room up to 12 m³. An economizer and a hinged tank are installed as an optional extra.

  Like all other models in this series, Kutkin Economy Plus 1.0 can be lined with natural stone tiles: jadeite, soapstone and coil. The cladding work is carried out along the guides installed during assembly at the factory.

• Wood-burning stoves for the bath Kutkin 1.5 Economy - designed for heating the stove directly from the steam room. The performance of the equipment is sufficient to heat a room with a volume of up to 18 m³.

  It is possible to order a modified model with a built-in gas burner. The Kutkin 1.5 Economy configuration with gas operation provides for the installation of an OLYMPIA OHG-2 unit (Korea).

  Additionally, you can purchase an economizer and natural stone slabs for cladding.

• Stoves for a bath from Kutkin 2.0 Economy - the design provides for the heating of a steam room from an adjacent room. It is possible to install a panoramic door with a wide view of the burning flame. The length of the fuel channel is 200-250 mm. Connection of a remote tank for water heating is provided.

  If necessary, you can modify the installation by re-equipping it for gas, or buy a ready-made Kutkin 2.0 Economy furnace with an installed gas burner. In the basic configuration, the power of the equipment is sufficient to heat a steam room up to 25 m³.

• Sauna stove with a closed stove Kutkin 3.0 - can be used with equal efficiency both in a Russian bath and in a Finnish sauna, it is also possible to use this model for a Turkish hamam. The stove quickly raises the temperature to the set limit and then maintains the set parameters.

  The design of the Kutkin 3.0 sauna stove, when operating on gas, allows for the complete automation of the firing process. The change in temperature can be changed in 10-15 minutes.

  The heater can be used both in closed and convection (open) mode. It can be used for large steam rooms with a volume of up to 35 m³. Possible finishing in soapstone and other natural stone.

We suggest that you familiarize yourself with Finishing the bath inside: setting up a steam room, shower room, rest rooms. do-it-yourself bath: interior decoration

Installing a gas burner allows you to fully automate the process of heating the steam room. Recently, an additional function of remote start of the furnace equipment operation has become possible using a mobile phone.

Kutkin furnace operating modes

As already mentioned, this stove can create the conditions of four different types of steam rooms, the most popular in our country.

Infrared sauna

This mode is achieved in a steam room when the room has warmed up to about 40 ° C. At this time, the walls of the casing and the economizer on the pipe have already warmed up enough and radiate heat in the infrared range. At the same time, you need to lay a little firewood.

If you need this mode, cover the air supply and do not open the heater lid. The mode will keep without overheating for a long time. The duration of the procedure is no more than 20-25 minutes, but depends on the state of health and well-being.

Installation option

Hamam

Turkish bath mode is achieved with a lot of steam. Bring the steam room temperature to 45-50 ° C, pour several ladles of water (about a liter) into the stove. At the same time, the stones will be poured, but there will be a lot of steam. The water will actively boil, steam will come out. In a few tens of minutes, it will rise to 97%.

Since the container of the stove is made of stainless steel, there will be no metal taste in the steam. The steam is good. Well, the loungers should warm up to normal temperature while the steam room was warming up.

Russian steam room

For this mode, the oven heats the room to 50-55 ° C. In this mode, without steam, make several passes to warm up (two or three). No steam and no broom. You can give herbal infusions at this time.

After the body has warmed up, you can increase the humidity. This is done gradually, pouring water into the stove in small portions. With each portion of steam, the temperature rises by about 5 °. Several such portions and the humidity is already 40-50% and the temperature is already 65-70 ° C. It is no longer necessary to raise higher: it is uncomfortable and burns. To maintain such a temperature, cover the air supply, the wood only burns slightly (if the stove is on gas, it is simply turned off).

This hole is covered with doors

This is when steaming with a broom begins. Open the stove, give it a couple of times with a ladle (it is 150 ml) and close the lid. Over time, the humidity level rises significantly (it depends on how much water you poured, and specifically - follow the hygrometer). Everything.You can work with a broom, it does not dry at high humidity. If you wish, you can add steam, but you should not raise the temperature higher, do not open the stove lid for a long time: they gave it up, immediately closed it.

We went out to rest, the heater is closed. The stones are still warmed up. You add water again. And then, it seems that hiss is weak and the pair is not enough. As the manufacturer says, after it seemed, it will be enough for another two or three runs for sure. If this is not enough, they threw in a couple of logs, after 15-20 minutes it will be enough. On gas, as MM Kutkin says, the furnace goes into operation even faster - after 7 minutes.

In general, up to 10-12 kg of dry firewood is required for two to three hours. This is for 1-2 people. A small campaign will need about 15 kg. But this is for a normally insulated bath and at a positive temperature in the bath at the start. And as you know, the weather and the degree of insulation are very important.

Finnish sauna

This mode is characterized by a high temperature - from 90 ° and above - and a low humidity of no more than 15%. Such conditions can be obtained if the steam room is heated to 85 (the stove cover is closed, the valves - as appropriate, but do not allow the red glow of the pipe). Then the lid is opened and after a few minutes the required temperature is obtained. The lid is closed, the air supply to the firebox is also minimized. In this mode, the temperature is simply maintained.

Drying the bath

As you probably guessed, the stove lid simply opens. If there is a need or desire, you can throw in a couple of logs, but in general, the residual heat is usually enough to dry everything.

Kutkin stoves have few competitors, as well as metal aggregates in general that are capable of creating conditions for a Russian bath. These are just a few firms:

• Feringer ovens;
• ovens Troika;
• ovens under Teklar brick lining;
• some brands with a closed heater (EasySteam, Charodeyka, ParAvoz);
• cast iron stoves for a bath (Svarozhich, Kalita, Sudarushka)

Gas stove for bath Kutkin

As already mentioned, any of the sauna stoves from this manufacturer can be equipped with a gas burner. Gas equipment of two types is installed:

• pressurized burner OLYMPIA ONG-2 or ONG-3 with two control panels;
• atmospheric burner "Irtysh" and automatic equipment from Italy.

Moreover, they can work both from natural gas and are reconfigured to use bottled (liquefied) gas. If you do not specify the settings, then from the factory the burners are set for main natural gas. Instructions for use and adjustment are included.

Pressurized burner OLYMPIA ONG-2 or ONG-3

Kutkin ovens are gas certified and can be installed directly on a combustible base. But, as with any gas boiler, installing gas equipment in a bath requires a project, as well as a service contract with a service organization.

By operating mode: when starting from positive temperatures, the steam room will be ready in about 40-60 minutes. If you turn off the gas after that, the steam will last for about an hour. If this is not enough, you can re-ignite it. Good, light steam can be “produced” within 7-10 minutes after restarting.

According to the experts of the bath, today the gas stove for the Kutkin bath is the best available on the market.

How to determine the power of the oven

Gas ovens during operation can give different power. Therefore, this factor must be taken into account when purchasing equipment. The calculation of power is determined based on the area of ​​the bath room. Accordingly, the larger the area it has, the more power parameters the furnace should have.

Furnace design Siberia

In order to correctly calculate the required power of the stove, it is important to make the most accurate measurements of the area of ​​the steam room.The correctness of the system as a whole will depend on this. Even small deviations in measurements and calculations will subsequently bring many problems with the creation of a comfortable temperature regime. This situation can be prevented if there are accurate design characteristics of the bath. Based on these indicators, you can select a stove. Usually, in the performance characteristics of the equipment, manufacturers indicate the volume of the steam room for which a particular model can be calculated.

Brick Gas Furnace Construction

The scheme of operation of gas stoves for a bath is to mix gas with air. The intensity of combustion and heat supply can be easily adjusted by opening the door located at the bottom of the stove.

Gas oven Kutkin

Kutkin furnace parameters

User reviews of the Kutkin oven

We have already cited many reviews in the text. These are the opinions of people who have either already bought a stove for themselves, or have "tried" it from someone. There are a few more below.

I have Kutkin 2.0 for two years now. He took Econom, he tiled it himself. The installation was easy, the pipe was installed by a pro. But, as I saw, I would have done it myself. At the first heating (without stones for 1.5 hours) there was only a slight smell. Gary was almost gone. Then he laid stones: about 15 kg on the pipe, 75 more on the stove. But I didn't load much, you can add more. I have a summer bath, so I can't say anything about winter regimes. But in summer, at + 25 ° C outside, it rises to 55 in about three quarters of an hour. While I was warming myself, more than an hour passed. The temperature was already under 70. I added water, so the steam exploded. I love the sound of it. And it's easy to breathe. I have a nice bath now.

Nikolay, Vologda

Installed Kutkin oven

The Kutkin stove is a good, well-made thing. When starting from freezing temperatures, after 90 minutes you can go to steam - the stones are ready for steam. One caveat: while the oven is on, you can steam, if it goes out, the steam runs out. And there is no need to overheat: it gets too hot. In general, it is necessary to adapt. But the steam is good, light. Even a Turkish bath is better than expensive steam generators. I don't like this one, but my wife is a lover. So she stopped going to her club with her friends. Now everyone hangs out with us.

Anatoly, Moscow

I go with friends to a commercial bath with a small Kutkin 1.0 stove. We like steam very much. Personally, I am also attracted by the possibility of temperature control using a lid. I wanted it hotter - I opened it. To bring it down, however, you have to open the window, but it's even better - the air is fresh. When, finally, I build myself a bathhouse, I will definitely take this one.

Vasily, Moscow

Models, specifications and selection

The stove is selected according to the volume of the steam room. Since the unit is powerful, a large stock is not needed: it will be difficult to maintain the mode.

Kutkin has three furnace modifications:

• "Economy" - comes without cladding;
• "Standard" with facing (coil or jadeite to choose from);
• "Premium" - faced with a fireplace door.

The difference between "Economy" and "Standard" is only in the presence of cladding. Both are made of steel with a thickness of 2 mm (AISI 430). In "Premium" the thickness is more - 3 mm (the same brand). As a result, Kutkin's “Premium” ovens are more inertial, but they also keep heat longer.

Technical characteristics of stoves for the Russian bath Kutkin

The volume of the steam room is calculated by the numbers after the name: 1.0 - for 10 cubes, 2.0 - for twenty, etc. Otherwise, focus on the size of the units and how they fit into your premises. Technical parameters and dimensions of Kutkin furnaces are presented in the table.

findings: Quite often there are situations when everyone in the family likes different regimes. Finding a universal oven is very, very difficult. Kutkin is one of the few. Moreover, even such a difficult regime as a Russian bath is assessed by connoisseurs as good or very good. The ease of adjusting the temperature regime and the good dynamics of the acceleration of the steam room are noted.

The video compares two metal stoves for a Russian bath - Kutkin and Charodeyka.They are in the same price range, but their designs are different.

Criterias of choice

When purchasing Kutkin ovens, you should use the standard selection criteria. They are as follows:

• Determine the size of the steam room and select exactly the models that fit this criterion.
• Select the type of fuel with which you will heat the stove - among the models presented there are gas and wood stoves. Those who initially plan to heat with gas do not need to buy a wood-burning model and convert it.
• Determine if furnace trim is required at an additional cost.

Finishing will give the model a complete laconic look. The manufacturer offers the following types of cladding:

• the serpentine looks noble, its dark green color soothes, and the serpentine pattern emphasizes the delicate taste of the owner;
• austere gray stone talcochlorite in the finish looks beautiful, its pattern is called velvet;
• jadeite trim is considered the most expensive in terms of cost, it is ideal for saunas and baths, and in combination with emerald details it looks bright.

The choice of finishes is a personal matter for the buyer. Some owners produce it themselves using tiles. Replacing the cladding is a simple process that does not require special skills.

Universal Kutkin ovens quickly gained popularity, they are worth paying attention to